5 HTP is a supplement that converts in the brain into serotonin, an important neurotransmitter involved in depression, behavior, appetite, impulse control, and sleep. Scientists have examined its role in anxiety, panic attacks, headache, weight loos, and other conditions. For instance, low serotonin levels may lead to addictive behavior such as gambling or other habits with weak will power. 5-HTP supplementation may help certain individuals with impulse control and addictive behaviors.
5HTP crosses the blood
brain barrier
5 HTP is not a vitamin, rather it is the hydroxy form of the
amino acid tryptophan. After absorption from the intestinal tract, it goes into
the bloodstream then crosses the blood brain barrier where it converts
into serotonin, also known as 5-HT, or 5-hydroxytryptamine. This
neurotransmitter is found in many places in the body
particularly the brain, gastrointestinal system, and blood cells.
Can you clarify the claims made in an article in Oprah magazine. An
Australian study found that 5HTP is converted into serotonin in the
stomach where it remains, causing stomach upsets and nausea. It further
claims that the serotonin never makes it the brain, and is therefore,
useless as a mood enhancer, antidepressant, etc.
A 5-hydroxytryptophan supplement
is absorbed from the intestinal tract, quickly goes into brain tissue and
converts into serotonin. People often feel the effects within an hour or
two. We noticed the the effects - drowsiness, sleepiness,
relaxation - within 20 minutes the very first time we took a 50 mg capsule in
the evening on an empty stomach. Some
researchers make the mistake of not taking a supplement themselves. A
great deal can be learned by self experimentation, sometimes much more
than doing in vitro studies or studies with rodents.
5-HTP
supplement 50 mg - Doses higher than 50 mg can cause side effects
Formulated by Dr. Ray Sahelian, M.D., author of 5-HTP, Nature's Serotonin
Solution


Some studies have used 5HTP dosages of 300 mg a day for depression, but
we consider any dose above 50 or 100 mg a high dose. Most products on
the market are sold in 50 and 100 mg capsules. Some people do well with 20
to 50 mg, while others may temporarily require 100 mg or more. Those who
do well with small dosages can open a capsule and take a portion mixed
with water. 5HTP is best absorbed on an empty stomach. Medical supervision
is recommended if high doses of 5HTP are required to treat a particular
condition. A capsule works very well, we don't see any obvious advantages
of liquid 5 HTP. We suggest using a lesser amount of 5HTP if taken in a
sublingual form. It does seem to be absorbed in the sublingual way and
could work.
What is the best pharmaceutical grade brand and where to
can one buy it for the best price?
You will find most of the top manufacturers to have high
quality 5HTP supplements, therefore we can't say what is the best 5-HTP
supplement. They are generally equivalent in effectiveness so taking any such
product should provide you with benefits. As to where to buy 5-HTP, the
internet is a good option, so are health food stores. You can find a
pharmaceutical grade 5-HTP product above. 5-Hydroxytryptophan is extracted from
griffonia
simplicifolia seeds.
Timing of 5HTP - what time of day and
when to take it for the most benefit
It's difficult to recommend the best time to take 5HTP since it varies
among individuals. It depends whether it is being used for sleep, in
that case it is taken in the evening; for anxiety or low mood, 5HTP can
be taken any time of day. In the case of appetite control or weight loss,
it can be taken on an
empty stomach an hour or two before a meal. We have not seen specific
studies in regards to 5 HTP half life,
but based on our experience it is only a few hours. If you do take it during the
day, it's best to take no more than 25 mg since it could cause sleepiness.
There has not been enough research done with 5HTP to know the ideal
dosages and timing. Also, there is significant individual variability. Hence, each person may need to find out for
themselves the lowest dose that works well, and the ideal timing, whether
early in the day, midday or evening.
Antioxidant potential
5-hydroxytryptophan is a more potent in vitro hydroxyl radical
scavenger than melatonin or vitamin C.
J Pineal Research. 2005.
Hydroxyl radicals are involved in direct damage of important biomolecules.
Potent radical scavengers such as vitamin C and indoles of the tryptophan
family can avert the potential damage. Melatonin and its precursor
5-hydroxytryptophan were compared with water-soluble vitamin C.
5HTP showed highest hydroxyl radical scavenging effects.
Benefit
for ADHD
We have not seen any good 5HTP studies in regards to ADHD treatment in
children or adults.
Benefit
for anxiety
Most people who take a 5HTP supplement notice a reduction in anxiety symptoms.
Others respond better to herbs such as passionflower, kava, or the amino
acids theanine or tryptophan.
I would like to use 5 HTP for
anxiety symptoms but I also do not want to depend on daily use. Are there other herbs or supplements for anxiety that I could
substitute on the days I am not taking it?
Herbs that can be helpful for anxiety include passion flower,
kava, ashwagandha, and valerian root. It is a
good idea to alternate different herbs and supplements so as not to be
dependent one particular one or build a tolerance to any particular herb
or nutrient.
What
time of day should one take the supplement.
It depends on several factors including whether you have a desk
job or have a physically active job, what time of day your anxiety occurs, and
whether you have other medical conditions or taking other supplements or
medications. As a general rule, you can try half of a 5HTP 50 mg capsule twice a
day morning and midday and then base further dosage increases or frequency
depending on how you feel.
Bipolar
disease
5 HTP has not been studied thoroughly as a treatment for bipolar disease
so we don't know if it will work. Since some SSRI drugs work as a
treatment for bipolar disease, it may be worth to give the natural
dietary pill
a try.
Benefit for depression
Some people who take 5HTP notice better mood. Many with mild or
moderate
depression have noticed
improved symptoms. Mild depression could respond to 50 mg
taken daily. A higher dosage of 100 to 200 mg may be required for more moderate cases of depression
although the risk for side effects increases with the 100 mg dosage is
exceeded. Some people prefer using 5-HTP, others prefer using tryptophan, and still others
find more benefit from St. John's wort or SAM-e. It's a matter of personal preference.
I've had a problem with everything 5-htp is indicated for. I've only taken 50 mg once a day for the last 3 days and have noticed a complete change - no anxiety, no depression, nice relaxation. I'm not a small guy since I weigh 190 lbs.
I am a doctor in the UK and have suffered from depression, intermittently, since my 20s. I am now 52. I have been taking amitriptyline 150mg a day for the last 10 years after my psychiatrist and I went through almost the entire pharmacopoeia, including SSRIs, SNRIs, MAOIs, lithium, sodium valproate etc. The side effects from all of those prescription drugs were severe enough for me to be unable to tolerate any of them and amitriptyline appeared to suit me, though I still had breakthrough depressions, often quite severe, and I could do nothing about them drug wise because of my intolerances. At the moment cognitive behavioural therapy is flavour of the month here but it never had the slightest beneficial effect on me. In addition, every non-prescription chemical I tried, including St John’s wort, produced no beneficial effect. During my most recent depressive episode I searched the internet in desperation for any possible treatment I might have missed out on, and I came across your articles on 5 HTP. I ordered some online and the effect has been spectacular. After the second dose I felt better than I have felt in so many years that my only regret is that I didn’t discover this natural supplement years ago. My friends and family have also noticed the positive change in my behaviour and for the first time in so many years I have positive feelings about the future.
Fibromyalgia
5-HTP may help some patients with fibromyalgia
symptoms.
Headache
May benefit some
individuals with migraine headaches.
What is the right 5 HTP dose for
preventing migraine headaches?
More research is needed for us to know the right dose. For the
time being, it seems reasonable that 50 mg once or twice a day
should be a good start.
Hot flashes after
menopause
Treatment of menopausal hot flashes with 5-hydroxytryptophan.
Maturitas. 2009.
The purpose of the present study was to determine the effects of
5-hydroxytroptophan, the immediate precursor of serotonin, upon menopausal hot
flashes. Selective, serotonergic, reuptake inhibitors SSRIs, which increase
the amount of serotonin in the synaptic gap, have shown some promise in the
amelioration of hot flashes. We administered 5-HTP or placebo, in double-blind
fashion, to 24 postmenopausal women reporting frequent hot flashes. Treatment
outcome was measured using a miniature, electronic, hot flash recorder. No
significant effects of 150mg/day 5-HTP upon hot flash frequency were found. The
5-HTP group had 23 hot flashes / 24h prior to treatment and 18 at the end of
treatment. The placebo group had 18 before treatment and 22 at treatment
completion. At the dose given, 5-HTP had a mild effect on the frequency of
menopausal hot flashes but more studies are needed to determine whether this
nutrient is a worthwhile treatment for this condition.
IBS -
irritable bowel syndrome
We don't have enough experience with this supplement to know whether it
is effective as an IBS treatment.
Menstruation and
menstrual cycle
I have tried 5htp for about 3 months now and i am so happy with this.
I have had insomnia for the last 5 years and tried everything. I was so
desperate and it made me very depressed. 5 htp is the first thing that really
works and keeps working. There is one thing that is bothering me. When i started
it, i took 200 mg a day because that was what was recommended on the bottle i
bought. But then it almost completely stopped my menstruation. I would like to
know if you are familiar with this side effect and if it is dangerous. I am
taking 2 pills, each 100 mg a week now and it still works very good. I hope this
will bring back a normal menstruation.
It is possible that the influence of serotonin could have a
role to play with hormones and menstruation.
Panic
attacks
5HTP may reduce the severity of a panic attack which may indicate that
panic attacks may partly be due to low serotonin levels. A panic attack involves the sudden
appearance of several symptoms including shortness of breath, sweating or
shaking, palpitations, and the fear of dying or losing control. Women
are more likely than men to have this condition. Doctors often prescribe
anti-anxiety medicines such as Xanax or Valium. However, 5HTP may play an important role. Researchers at the Department of Neuropsychology at Maastricht University in The Netherlands were able to
induce a panic attack in volunteers who suffer from panic disorder by
having them breathe a high concentration of carbon dioxide. They repeated
the study, this time giving half of the volunteers 200-mg of 5HTP while
the others received a placebo. Those who took the natural remedy had a significantly
diminished panic response compared to those on placebo.
The results of this study are quite interesting and indicate that
those with panic attacks may not have adequate levels of serotonin. If you
suffer from frequent panic attacks, it would be worthwhile to discuss the
findings of this 5HTP study with your physician.
Premature ejaculation
5-HTP is normally used to increase serotonin levels and often used to
treat depression. It is not normally known as a premature ejaculation
pill, but it may help with premature ejaculation by increasing levels of
serotonin. It may not stop premature ejaculation, but at least it may
slow the process.
Sense of smell
Would taking a 5htp supplement make one more or less
sensitive to fragrances and perfumes?
We doubt it would have a major effect. For best price perfume site
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perfume info site.
Sleep and insomnia treatment
The influence of a 5-HTP supplement on sleep is not consistent. Some users
notice better sleep, while others find that this supplement is not helpful
for insomnia. You may wish to try different dosages at times of the day or evening to see
which dosage and timing works best for sleep. Some individuals who find themselves more alert rather
than in a relaxed, sleepy state of mind when supplementing. 5HTP is not consistently effective when it comes to sleep, although
using a lower dose of 10 to 30 mg may be tried one to three hours before
bed. Nightmares are common, at least in the first few nights of therapy.
5HTP
Weight Loss information - Does this serotonin precursor help curb your appetite?
Will you lose weight if you take this supplement? What is the right dosage to
eat less? Should you take 50 mg, 100, 150 or 300 mg a day?
A few studies with indicate that this supplement may be of benefit in appetite
control and
weight loss. It could be used
temporarily for appetite suppression while other lifestyle and dietary changes
are being incorporated regarding a life long plan for keeping weight off. Not
everyone notices the appetite suppressing effect.
The question that still remains to be answered is in
regards to tolerance. Would the continued use of 5-HTP supplements over several
weeks or months lead to tolerance or would the benefits of appetite suppression
leading to weight loss continue? It appears thus far that the use of this
natural supplement for days or weeks is quite safe. We have not seen studies combining it with Alli. Long term studies do not show Alli to have a major influence on weight
loss.
5-Hydroxy-L-tryptophan suppresses
food intake in food-deprived and stressed rats.
Giving L-tryptophan, serotonin's circulating precursor, or a serotonin-releasing
drug can decrease food intake and body weight. Giving 5-hydroxy-L-tryptophan,
serotonin's immediate intracellular precursor, has been thought to be
ineffective in enhancing brain serotonin synthesis unless it is coadministered
with a dopa decarboxylase inhibitor to protect 5-HTP from destruction outside
the brain. We have examined the effect on food consumption and tissue 5-HTP
levels among rats. Our observations suggest that 5-HTP may be useful in
controlling the excessive food intake sometimes generated by stress, even if
given without decarboxylase inhibitors or other drugs. Pharmacol Biochem Behav.
2004.
5-HTP side effects, danger, safety,
danger, toxicity, overdose
These supplements were introduced to the over the counter market in 1994. Our
understanding of its clinical uses, safety issues, is not comprehensive. We
don't know as much as we should about the safety of chronic 5-HTP use.
Therefore, until we learn more, the idea is to take a 5-HTP supplement in the minimum
effective dosage and to avoid its prolonged continuous use. Those who
use it for depression or other reasons should take frequent breaks to avoid
potential future problems (the frequency and length of breaks
varies since each person is unique). During these breaks, other forms of
therapy could be substituted. As of 2011, and after more than a decade of
being available to
the public, we are not aware of any reports in the medical literature of
anyone who has encountered life threatening or other serious 5-HTP side effects
when used by itself. It's best to be cautious, limit use to 50 mg or at
most 100 mg a day. For
people who limit their dosage to 50 mg a few times a week, it
poses little or no danger. 5HTP
appears to be a safe supplement in terms of heart problems. Heart
palpitations are rare unless large dosages are taken. We are not aware
of any human fatalities with its use.
Common side effects include nausea, stomach
upset, loose stools or constipation, and headache.
Those who take 100 mg are likely to feel nausea and stomach upset, and
have more vivid nightmares. Another common side
effect is a decrease in libido which can be reversed when the 5-HTP
supplement is stopped.
I took 5 HTP for 2 weeks at 50 mg daily,
My depression, bad thoughts and general anxiety lifted well. I
took the pill at mid day, was eating better, sleeping better, energy in the
daytime, i thought i was on my way to recovery then after 16 pills I began to
have muscle tremors and faster heart beat at night and 1 or 2 twitches
in the day, Is this just a normal response to serotonin being
introduced?
An important concept to keep in mind
with certain nutrients and herbs is that they can accumulate in the body or
their effects may be additive. For instance, if you take a certain supplement at
50 mg, some of it (or its effect on the body and brain) may still be around the
next day. So, if you take another 50 mg the next day, you are now getting dosed
a higher amount the second day, and even more on the third day. Sooner or later
side effects are likely to occur. Just as with medications, supplement dosages
need to be constantly adjusted.
What happens with an overdose of 5-HTP supplement?
The most common and immediate 5HTP overdose symptoms are nausea,
diarrhea, stomach upset and perhaps vomiting. An overdose of 5 HTP along with SSRI drugs such as Prozac may lead to
serotonin syndrome. You can avoid an overdose by limiting it
to less than 100 mg a day.
Heart valve
A concern I have is about the effect that it may have on heart valves
and/or platelet aggregation. This warning seems to come from various medical
professionals; however, I haven't seen any evidence to back this statement up
(none of the people discouraging 5-HTP use have ever provided a reference to a
study for this side-effect). What is your opinion on this theory that itp can
cause heart damage? I understand that it has been taken in oral supplementation
for for decades in Europe, and I haven't heard any anecdotal evidence
that it is a problem.
This nutrient became available to the public in the USA since
1996 and thus far no major side effects, including heart valve problems, have
been reported. As a general rule we suggest taking breaks from use which would
limit any potential adverse events.
Liver
health
We have not come across any 5HTP research that indicates damage
to the liver.
Nightmares and vivid dreams
It works wonderfully to stop
my food binges and I even started singing in the shower again. But on the
other hand I am dreaming a lot at night, and some of those dreams are
nightmares. So I gave it to
my sister-in law - she had it even worse -whole night of nightmares. Would
it go away eventually or not?
In
some people the nightmares are reduced over time, but not in others.
Reducing the dosage of the 5HTP could help reduce the frequency or
severity of the vivid dreams and nightmares.
Sexual side effects, erectile
dysfunction, impotence
It is possible that regular use of 5HTP in
high doses could cause impotence in some men and dampen sex drive in a man and
woman. Erections are often returned to normal after a week or two of stopping
it.
I took 5-HTP for anxiety for 2
months after a divorce and it helped me feel more balanced. But now I have
low sexual interest. I stopped the 5HTP supplement. Is there a natural
herb or pill I can take to reverse the sexual loss? It's not fun having no
libido.
Passion Rx is an excellent option, so are maca, muira puama,
catuaba, tribulus terrestris, and horny goat weed. Other libido enhancers
to consider include tongkat ali and mucuna pruriens.
Withdrawal symptoms
I wanted to let you know of 5 HTP withdrawal symptoms of brain
zaps. I took 100 mg of 5-HTP, sometimes 200 mg a day for a few months and
after I quit, I started getting "Brain Zaps"--- strange and frightening
zapping in my head. I looked up "brain zaps" on the internet and found it
is often a side effect after stopping prescription SSRI anti-depressants.
5-HTP in
combination with natural antidepressants
GABA supplement
What do you think of taking GABA and 5HTP together?
We have not found GABA to be as effective as 5-HTP in reducing
anxiety. We don't
have much experience combining the two supplements.
Melatonin
Can 5HTP be taken at night with melatonin? Will there be side effects?
Depending on the dosage, the combination with melatonin
could produce very vivid dreams, including nightmares.
It seems that one can take 5htp at very
different dosages. 5htp and some antidepressants may be dangerous because
of creating excess serotonin levels. Is it safe to take 5htp and
melatonin, however?
The dosage of melatonin and 5-HTP would need to be reduced if
combined. First learn how each supplement works for you by itself before
combining.
Passion Rx
l have ordered 5-htp and would like to know if it is
beneficial or safe to take with Passion Rx or other sex enhancing aphrodisiac
formulas at the same time.
We suggest not to use 5-HTP and Passion Rx or other sexual herbs
together. 5-HTP increases serotonin which blunts the sexual response and it
would make it more difficult for the Passion Rx to be effective. You can use
the natural aphrodisiac product for a few days (but not more than 2 days in a row) and take a break
and use 5-HTP for a few days.
SAM-e supplement combination
SAM-e is a powerful supplement, so is 5-HTP. They
work in different ways. 5-HTP helps to balance serotonin and reduce
stress and anxiety along with a mood lift. SAM-e increases energy
and mood, but in high dosages can cause anxiety and insomnia. The
best way is to first learn how each one works by itself for a period
of a week or two, and if combining the two supplements, it is a good
idea to take half the regular dosage. A SAM-e pill may be taken in
the morning while 5-HTP pill could be taken in the afternoon or
evening. There are some people who would respond to a SAM-e pill by
itself, others do better with 5-HTP pills, and still others may
benefit from a combination. It is not easy to predict which will
work best. Have approval by a health care provider. Dosages of
supplements should be adjusted on a regular basis to avoid side
effects. This may require lowering dosages or taking a day off every
few days.
I am currently taking low doses of SAM-e (50 – 100 mg daily) and
can find nothing about interaction with products that all contain 5HTP (i.e
Diet Rx, Mind Power Rx, Good Night Rx). Also, it is hard to determine if
it is relatively safe to try these products when the amount of 5-HTP in
each is proprietary. Can a person take 5-HTP with SAM-e supplement?
It is best to learn how each supplement works by itself before
combining. For instance, if someone were to take Diet Rx the first few
days, we suggest not combining it with SAM-e or other supplements. Same
with Good Night Rx. 5-HTP is not the only ingredient that can potentially
interact with SAM-e supplements. The amount of 5-HTP in Diet Rx and Good
Night Rx is small, but, as previously said, there are many nutrients and
herbs that need to be considered while combining supplements. There are no
easy answers, and the best option is to first learn how each formula or
supplement works by itself in your particular case before mixing them.
Mind Power Rx does not have 5-HTP. Some people find they can take a low of dose of SAM-e, such as 50
or 100 mg in the morning and then take 5-HTP at 25 to 50 mg later in the
day. This may work well for some individuals. But, before combining SAM-e
and 5-HTP supplements, first learn how each one works for you by itself.
Your dosage may need to be reduced after a few days.
St John's wort
herb and use for antidepressant withdrawal or weaning off prescription
medications
We are often asked if 5-HTP can be taken together with St. John's wort.
Many people can take them both if the St. John's wort dosage is kept at
300 mg of the 0.3 mg extract and the 5 HTP dosage is kept to 50 mg or
less. One option is the take the St. John's wort in the morning and the
5HTP in late afternoon or evening. We don't suggest taking a 100 mg 5 HTP
supplement along with 3 capsules of St. John's wort a day.
I am currently weaning off of Lexapro and Klonopin after 3 yrs, with
the advice of my doctor, but I would like to know if it is ok to take
something else like St. John's wort or 5HTP while weaning off, so that I
do not have the withdrawal symptoms and or have a relapse, I have done so
much research on the net and find so many suggestions that it all gets
confusing, so some info regarding the use of St. John's wort or 5-HTP
would be helpful for me and I can pass it along to the doctor,
The use of 5HTP, St. John's wort or any natural anti-depressant
for medication withdrawal has not been well-studied by scientists. There
are no easy answers since each person is likely to have a different
response. It is not possible to predict any one person's reaction.
Therefore, the best one can do is trial and error, using 5-HTP or St.
John's wort beginning with low dosages under medical guidance. The 5-HTP
dosage required is likely to vary and can range from 25 mg to 50 mg, 100
mg or more. The St. John's wort dosage could range from 300 mg every other
day to 300 mg twice daily. The time of use as far as days or weeks can
also vary. Some people may only need to take these supplements for a week
or two whereas others may need a longer time. Each person is unique.
I have been taking 5HTP 300 mg a day with 900 mg. St.
John's wort for over 8 months now. I read an article by Dr. Ray Sahelian that
St. John's wort triggers mania in bi-polar patients; therefore, I discontinued
it and I lowered my dosage of 5HTP to 100 mg a day. I have just ordered Lithium
orotate and rish oil from LifeLink in the hopes that it will help me with
bi-polar depression. Is it ok to take 5HTP with the Lithium orotate? I currently
do not see a doctor since I have always had bad reactions to psychiatric
medicines. 5HTP seems to do well with the depression, but it does not take away
some of the mania I experience.
We have not seen any studies regarding the combination of 5 HPT
and lithium orotate. It is best to first learn how each supplement works by
itself before combining, and when supplements are combined a safer approach is
to use less of a dosage of each initially to determine how the combination is
influencing your body and mind.
5HTP versus
tryptophan amino acid
Which is better for depression treatment, 5HTP or tryptophan?
In our experience, we have found 5 HTP to be more effective, but
many people who prefer tryptophan swear by it. Therefore, you can try each
supplement separately to see which one works for you better.
Tyrosine amino
acid interaction
Tyrosine is an amino acid that helps elevate mood. If you plan to use
tyrosine and 5 HTP together, we suggest the maximum dose of tyrosine not
to exceed 250 mg, and the maximum dose of 5HTP not to exceed 50 mg.
Vitamin B6 or B vitamins
Is it okay to take a B vitamin supplement or vitamin B6 and 5htp?
I've read conflicting reports about the safety of doing so.
We suggest taking 5-HTP by itself. Most of the time it is taken
in the late afternoon or evening while B vitamins are taken in the
morning. We don't see the need to take a 5-THP capsule that already has B
vitamins in it. 5-HTP works quite well by itself without vitamin B6 or the
other B vitamins.
Source and manufacture
5HTP is made in the body from the amino acid tryptophan. Most of
the 5HTP produced in the body comes from its manufacture in the
intestines from tryptophan. Tryptophan is an essential amino acid; that
is, the body does not have the capacity to synthesize it. All the supply
of tryptophan must be gotten through foods that contain protein. 5HTP sold over the counter is extracted from the
griffonia seed. The
seeds come from an African tree grown mostly in Ghana and the Ivory Coast.
5HTP can also be made synthetically in the laboratory. The final product
is the same as the one made by the body. Only a small (3 to 7) percent of
the griffonia seed is made of 5HTP; therefore, consuming griffonia seeds
is not an efficient way of getting 5HTP. 5HTP is not made from
fermentation of bacteria.
Prescription drug interactions - SSRI drugs
The use of 5HTP in combination with SSRI drugs such as Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft,
and others has not been formally evaluated. Nor has the interactions of
5-HTP with most pharmaceutical drugs. Anecdotal reports indicate
that many people tolerate small amount of 5HTP, 50 mg or less, with small
amounts of SSRIs and other medications when used under the guidance of a medical professional.
The effects of taking 5HTP along with a pharmaceutical antidepressant are
sometimes difficult to predict. Since the SSRIs, like Prozac, block
serotonin reuptake, and 5HTP converts into serotonin, it is possible that
dangerously high levels of serotonin could occur, a condition called
serotonin syndrome. Therefore, 5HTP contraindications include combination
with high dose SSRI drugs.
What knowledge or experience do you have in
using 5-htp in SSRI (Prozac, Celexa, Zoloft) and SSNRI (Effexor)
withdrawal? I personally have had great difficulties in discontinuing
Celexa and Effexor and have found (via web searches) that there are many
others going through the same experiences.
We are not aware of studies regarding the substitution of 5-HTP
in cases of SSRI drug withdrawal. Each person may have a different
response depending on the severity of their anxiety or depression, the
type of SSRI used, the length of time on the medications, their overall
general health, other medications used, etc. As a general rule, one would
add a small amount of 5-HTP while slowly reducing the dosage of Celexa,
Effoxor, or other SSRI. It is difficult to give precise dosage
recommendations since there a many variables that are involved.
Celexa drug
interaction
Can I take 5htp for depression if I am on Celexa (citalopram),
a SSRI drug?
Celexa is being
marketed as a less expensive and very selective SSRI (one which only
targets serotonin, not other neurotransmitters). Since 5-htp increases
serotonin levels, one has to be cautious taking it with Celexa since
hypothetically serotonin syndrome could occur.
Is 5HTP better than the drug Celexa
for depression?
Some people respond to a natural supplement, others prefer
prescription medications. It is difficult to predict whether a person
would benefit more from 5 HTP or a drug.
A week ago I said "enough is enough" and i quit Celexa cold turkey after 3 weeks use due to severe side effects such as insomnia and sexual dysfunction. i bought 5-HTP 200mg with Tyrosine 200mg in each capsule. I've been taking 1 a day for 5 days and I've never slept better. it has relieved my anxiety and depression but i find im kinda having mood swings, i'm pissed off alot more.
Citalopram drug interactions
I have spent last 2 years on citalopram for depression,
anxiety and OCD. I have felt most of the time that I can hear myself think
and that has caused me great deal of anxiety in social settings where I
would start getting all sorts of unpleasant thoughts. I started taking 5
HTP and two days later feel like new, able to steady my mind and my mind
is much less noisy. I did ask my MD whether I should take serotonin
supplement whilst on SSRI and she suggested not to combine but I took my
own risk, researching about possible downfalls such as serotonin syndrome
and decided to take a larger dose of 5HTP (150 mg spread over the day in 3
doses) and my SSRI in the evening until I feel free of my symptoms and
then to use small dose as and when required to compliment the use of SSRI
drugs until full recovery. I am vegetarian and have neglected my diet,
eating mostly junk food as I can see now, and not valid substitutes for
healthy foods such as fish etc. I believe this was the reason why I wasn't
producing enough serotonin to start with and it seems that with 5HTP I can
compensate as a first aid. it does really help although I do feel a bit
nauseous after taking it on an empty stomach but in every other aspect it
works. Having said that I don't know what its impact is on my liver or
bladder.
L-5-Hydroxytryptophan augments the
neuroendocrine response to a SSRI.
Psychoneuroendocrinology. 2006.
The neuroendocrine response to oral citalopram and l-5HTP was
measured primarily as the prolactin and cortisol area under the response
curve (or AUC). The study comprised 2 studies: Study 1. A double blind,
randomised dose ranging study was conducted with 5HTP (50-200 mg) to
explore the prolactin and/or cortisol dose response and select a dose
that provided a threshold neuroendocrine response. Study 2. A randomized
comparison of citalopram 20 vs 40 mg was used to assess the effect of
these doses on prolactin and cortisol. Citalopram, but not 5HTP,
increased prolactin AUC while 5HTP and citalopram increased cortisol
AUC. A 200 mg dose of 5HTP significantly augmented the prolactin and
cortisol response AUC to 20mg oral citalopram. The results of the study
suggest that an augmented neuroendocrine challenge may be a suitable
marker to demonstrate increased 5-HT-mediated responses when exploring
novel agents as improved SSRIs.
Effexor SSRI medication,
Effexor XR
I have fibromyalgia and have been reading about it. I have found that
5HTP, CoQ10 are supposed to be good for it, however I take Effexor XR
for depression is it safe to mix with 5HTP?
The addition of 5 HTP supplement to Effexor can enhance the
effect of the SSRI and hence potential side effects could occur. It is
best to discuss with a physician and reduce the Effexor XR dosage when
adding 5 HTP, and to only use 10 to 30 mg initially, such as
half a 50 mg capsule, until you have a good understanding how the
combination of 5 HTP and Effexor is influencing you.
I would like to find out how long I should wait
before starting 5-htp (50 mg per night to start) after weaning off of
Effexor 37.5 antidepressant?
Usually it is safe to start 5-HTP pills 2 or 3 days after
stopping SSRI drugs, but each person is different.
Lexapro
escitalopram combination
I am suffering from anxious depression and i need medication to treat
it what do u think about this: Escitalopram - 5mg (normal dose is 10mg or
more) plus 5-HTP - 50 mg. I plan to take only 5 mg of s-citalopram in
order to minimize the side effects and potentiate with 5-HTP. It is safe
to mix both in that doses? Do you expect the combination of 5HTP and
escitalopram Lexapro to be effective?
One serious side effect of high dosage selective serotonin
reuptake inhibitor use is serotonin syndrome. Excessive stimulation of
serotonin receptors is usually a result of administration of a high dose
serotonin agonist to a patient who is already receiving a drug capable of
enhancing the serotonin pathways. This could occur as a result of
decreased serotonin re-uptake (from tricyclic antidepressants), decreased
serotonin metabolism (from monoamine oxidase inhibitors), or excessive
administration of serotonin precursors or agonists (trazodone, L-tryptophan,
5-HTP). The risk for serotonin syndrome increases as the dosage of the
SSRI drugs and 5 HTP increases. There may be little risk when low dosages
of Lexapro and 5-HTP are combined, but each person is different on how
they tolerate this combination. It is not our role to say that the
combination of Lexapro and 5-HTP will be safe or not safe in your
particular case.
Luvox fluvoxamine
Do you think 5HTP pill will help with anxiety and depression. I take Luvox
50 mg but don’t want to gain weight and I thought the natural pill could
help me avoid the use of fluvoxamine.
5HTP has helped many people with anxiety and depression but it
is difficult to predict in any one individual whether it would be effective
or not and whether in your particular case it can replace your use of Luvox. The only way to tell if
supplements will help is through trial and error. There is no blood test or
other test that can be done to predict which supplement, combination of
supplements, or combination of supplements and medications will help. It is a
good idea, when starting a new supplement or drug, to begin with low dosages.
Paxil drug interactions, paroxetine
I recently started taking 50 mg of 5htp and I find that if I take it before
bedtime I wake up in a flash at about 4am. When I was taking Paxil, I had a
similar effect at first. What do you suppose is the biology of this? All I can
think of is that some of the serotonin is used for processing the day's
experiences and that if there is more serotonin, less processing time is needed,
and the body naturally wakes. It is somehow not a restful awakening though,
something else doesn't get to finish because I feel totally groggy the rest of
the day. My solution is simply to take 5htp in the morning.
Yes this can occur, perhaps the 5htp converts quickly into
serotonin and melatonin but wears off quickly, hence causing the awakening, or
5htp may stimulate the production of other brain chemicals or receptors that
lead to alertness. We are not sure, but we have had other people mention early
morning awakening with 5htp. Taking 5htp earlier in the day, or taking a smaller
amount in the evening could be tried.
Many of my patients are
taking SSRIs for anxiety and/or depression. I was told by the manufacturer
of Paxil that users of Paxil paroxetine drug and other SSRIs should avoid 5-HTP and
l-tryptophan supplements because of the danger of serotonin syndrome. The
manufacturer was not able to quantify the risk; I just received a blanket
CYA-like statement from them about completely avoiding 5-HTP and l-tryptophan.
Do you support and agree with the mfr's recommendation? Do you think
moderate quantities of 5-HTP (e.g., 100 mg tid for anxiety) and tryptophan
(e.g., 500 mg 30 min before hs) are safe when combined with, e.g. a
relatively low dose of Paxil (20 mg o.d.)?
5-HTP and tryptophan do influence serotonin levels. It is
possible to take both 5-HTP or tryptophan supplements along with Prozac,
Paxil, and Zoloft if the dosages are kept very low. However, there is a
possibility of serotonin syndrome or unpleasant side effects if the
dosages are high. We consider a dosage of 5-HTP greater than 50 mg a day
to be high whereas other doctors may have a higher threshold. 5-HTP at 100
mg three times a day is a very high dosage for most people. There may be
some sensitive individuals who could have side effects with 5-HTP,
tryptophan or SSRIs on very low dosages whereas others have a higher
threshold. No simple answers or dosages can be given that would apply to
everyone.
5HTP or
Prozac for depression? Fluoxetine
The choice of whether to take natural supplements for depression or
pharmaceutical medicines is a personal one along with consultation with a health
care professional. There are quite a number of factors, too many to list, that
have to be considered. Those with mild depression may wish to try natural
antidepressants first whereas those with moderate to severe depression would
likely need a strong pharmaceutical medicine, at least initially. Some other
natural antidepressants to consider include SAM-e and St. John's wort.
Prozac, known as fluoxetine, and other SSRIs have been tested more thoroughly than
natural antidepressants. 5HTP is trickier to use, tolerance may develop,
long-term safety not known as well, but works well for many people in improving
mood, reducing appetite, and improving sleep. It's very difficult, if not nearly
impossible, to predict how each person will react or respond to a medicine or
nutrient. Sometimes the best method is trial and error.
Can 5-HTP and Prozac be taken together?
Prozac, along with its cousins Zoloft, Paxil, and the other SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) help
lessen depression by making more serotonin available in the brain. Even
though the mechanism of action of the SSRIs is different than 5-HTP, the
end result is that there is more serotonin available in brain tissue,
resulting in better mood balance. There is a condition known as serotonin
syndrome which results from too much serotonin. Some of the symptoms
include confusion, sweating, elevated blood pressure, and rapid heart
beat. Serotonin syndrome sometimes occurs when the dosage of the SSRIs are
too high, or when they are combined with other medicines that increase
serotonin or brain chemical levels. Hence, tryptophan and 5-HTP, if taken
in very high doses along with SSRIs, could potentially lead to serotonin
syndrome. Having said this, it is possible that the combination of 5-HTP
and Prozac could be helpful in some people if the dosage of the Prozac is
reduced (let's say by half) and the initial amount of 5 HTP is started
very conservatively at half of a 50 mg capsule and symptoms are monitored
closely. The dosage of 5 HTP can be gradually increased if needed. Here is
an example where the approach of combining a drug and nutrient
could be quite useful, as long as one proceeds cautiously, with medical
supervision, and temporarily stops the medicines at the first sign of
serotonin excess.
Modavigil medication
I have been taking Modavigil for narcolepsy for 4 months and stated with 100mg
of 5 HTP last week in the morning on an empty stomach. I also take 100mg
Modavigil in the morning and at noon). On day 4, I experienced an increased
heart rate, nausea and dizziness for about 6 hours. It did not peak nor did it
subside for several hours. The Dr said it was most likely a panic attack but as
I have never had this before I wondered if there was a drug interaction.
Xanax
Can it be combined with Xanax or other
benzodiazepines?
It is difficult to predict the interactions of medications and
supplements, much depends on the person who is taking them and the dosage of the
medications and the dosage of the supplements and the time of day they are
taken.
Zoloft antidepressant, sertraline
Could you please explain to me the essential differences between Zoloft and 5 HTP?
It would
seem that 5 HTP alone is not as effective as Zoloft and other SSRIs for major
depression. If depression is caused by low
levels of serotonin in the brain, why can't increasing doses of 5 HTP alone
raise this level and "erase" the depression?
Perhaps in some people with severe depression 5-HTP may work as
well as Zoloft. Sertraline and the SSRI drugs don't work exactly the same way.
Zoloft prevents the reuptake of serotonin between nerve cells in the brain and
allows more serotonin to stimulate receptors on nerve cells, which are called
neurons. In contrast, when a 5-HTP supplement is taken, it converts into
serotonin in the brain hence increasing serotonin in this manner. Zoloft and the
other SSRI medications may not be 100 percent selective for serotonin. They may
also, perhaps in a minor way, influence other brain chemicals. We have not seen
research comparing 5-HTP versus SSRI medicines in the treatment of depression,
hence we don't know whether the drugs or the natural supplement is more
effective.
Weaning off SSRI medications or
other antidepressants and starting 5 HTP supplements
I have taken one 40mg pill of Paxil
each night for many years for OCD. I am 42 years old. I have grown tired of the
side effects of Paxil. Is there a way I could try to
wean myself off the Paxil and switch to see if 5HTP could make my condition
manageable instead of with drugs? Also, it looked like 5HTP was good to start
with, but would you suggest another natural product instead?
We can't make any specific suggestions on what a person should
or should not take. As a general rule, one can reduce the dosage of the SSRI
medication, in this case Paxil, while gradually starting with low dosages of
5HTP. The amount of the Paxil or SSRI medicaiton dosage reduction and the amount
of the initial and subsequent 5HTP dosage use depends on many factors including
the severity of the depression or OCD and the individual physiology of the
patient. No firm dosages guidelines can be given since each person responds
differently. Your health care provider should be aware.
Interaction with other
medicines
It is difficult to predict the drug interaction of 5HTP with lithium, MAO
inhibitors, anti-anxiety agents, beta blockers, birth control pills, and
other pharmaceutical medicines.
My son takes 3 anti seizure meds: Keppra, Carbatrol and
Lamictal. is there any problem taking 5HTP or tryptophan supplements with these
medications?
We have not seen any studies regarding its combination of
with Keppra, Carbatrol or Lamictal. Drug / supplement interactions are
complicated and when three medications are used together it is very difficult to
predict the interactions when combined with 5-HTP or tryptophan, which influence
serotonin levels.
Amitriptyline medication
Have taken amitriptyline since
1995 and sertraline for two weeks - 25 mg. I want a natural product that helps
anxiety and depression. Help is needed for my neurotransmitters. I am 74 years
old and would like to stop both, but am not sure how. Any suggestion is welcome.
I want to stop using amitriptyline.
We can't make specific suggestions but caution is advised if
suddenly stopping a medication that has been used for so many years.
Carbidopa
There's a pharmaceutical medicine called carbidopa which blocks the
metabolism of 5HTP in the blood stream allowing for more to be present in
the body. The question as to whether it is preferable to take carbidopa
along with 5HTP is not clear at this time but could be considered under
medical supervision. Taking carbidopa would most likely reduce the dosage
required for 5HTP since less 5HTP would be broken down in the
bloodstream and more would be available to enter the brain.
Imitrex
I am very interested in taking 5-HTP for anxiety, stress and headaches.
In my readings I came across a warning that 5-HTP pills should not be
taken with Imitrex, which I occasionally take for migraines (25 mg, a
couple of times a month). Would this preclude me from taking 5-HTP
supplement product?
If the 5HTP is taken on days when the Imitrex is not being used,
we don't see how there would be any interactions of any concern. If your
doctor approves, you can take the 5HTP supplement on the days when you are
not taking Imitrex. It is best not to take more than 50 mg a day.
Wellbutrin
What about 5-htp with Wellbutrin XL which does not
affect serotonin?
We are not familiar with any studies in this area, so it is
difficult to say how a person would handle the combination. The dosage and timing could make a significant difference,
as well as each person's unique biochemistry. Dosages should be kept low when a
pharmaceutical medicine for depression is combined with 5-HTP.
Pregnancy
I'm wondering if it's safe to take 5htp while pregnant?
The reason you are having problems finding
information in this area is because the role of 5htp supplements in pregnancy
has not been studied, so we really don't know its safety in women who
are pregnant or breastfeeding. We think it would be best not to use 5htp during
pregnancy unless your doctor approves and thinks other alternatives are less
safe.
I've been taking 100 mg a day of the NSI brand, as well as the New Chapter SC27
SJW St. John's wort, for about a year now, and it works pretty well for dealing
with my severe depression. Neither of the supplements alone is enough, but
together they make me feel alot better than I did on conventional meds. I took this combo for 3 months prior to getting pregnant,
as well as throughout the pregnancy, and just gave birth two weeks ago, at the
recommendation of my midwife. after doing some research she assured me it was
safe, and was alot more comfortable with my taking these supplements than the
Zoloft I was on during previous pregnancies. Prior to the pregnancy I had had
some issues with gas / bloating that seemed to be related to the 5htp, but once
I was pregnant the intestinal issues stopped for the duration. However now that
I've given birth, that side effect seems to have come back full force. Plus
we've upped the dose to 100 mg twice a day of 5htp, as a preventative measure
against post partum depression which I've had serious issues before, and Zoloft
alone was not enough for it last time. So far it seems to be helping
with that, I didn't really even have any "baby blues"... but the intestinal
issues have gotten pretty bad to the point where I have serious bloating,
cramping and BAD gas all day long now, which is not normal for me at all. I know
that 5htp can sometimes have this side effect for people. I REALLY like the way this combo works for me and don't want to go
back to conventional meds, as the numb / flat / zombie feeling and the sexual
side effects were NOT worth it. Even though I hate the intestinal issues, they
are still preferable to being suicidal, or the other side effects from SSRI's.
It is likely that as long as the serotonin precursor is used,
the adverse effects will continue. It is not clear whether ginger use could ease
symptoms. One has to balance side effects versus benefits of any supplement or
medication. Trying a lower dosage of the serotonin precursor is an option to
try.
Nursing and conception
I am 32 years old and have been struggling with depression on and off for about
10 years. I am currently experiencing depression, easily upset, anger,
frustration, unable to deal with things rationally. I am almost done nursing my
son and just wondering if 5htp would be ok to use.
This serotonin precursor may effect hormone levels and it is
not clear how it would influence milk production. We don't suggest using it
during pregnancy since no such research is available to prove safety and until
such studies are done it is best to be cautious.
Books
and publications
5-HTP: Nature's Serotonin Solution by Ray Sahelian, M.D.
5-HTP: The Natural Way to Overcome Depression, Obesity, and Insomnia by
Michael Murray, N.D.
Alcohol
Can a person take 5 htp and drink alcohol?
Alcohol is a drug that has unpredictable effects
when combined with certain herbs, nutrients, and medicines. A
small amount of alcohol, such as an ounce or two of wine should not be a
danger, but we caution against drinking too much.
5-HTP MDMA - What is the role of this
supplement
in MDMA induced neurotoxicity? Are these pills helpful to take before or after?
What is the appropriate dosage to take to prevent low mood or depression
following the use of Ecstacy?
Over the years many people have been testing the
combination of 5 HTP and MDMA. Either taking it before the use of MDMA, or
after. The rational for this is that MDMA use
lowers brain serotonin content which can lead to low mood or depression the day after the experience. 5-HTP is a natural supplement that converts into serotonin thus
replenishing the decrease in brain serotonin caused by the use of the drug. At least
one rodent study indicates that the use of
5-HTP before MDMA intake reduces the toxicity of MDMA on brain cells. MDMA is a drug that has serious side effects
especially when used in high dosages, in warm surroundings, and when not enough
water is ingested. As of November 2010, we are not aware of
human studies that have evaluated the safety of the use of 5 HTP supplements
before or after MDMA ingestion.
The most common strategies used for reducing negative MDMA side effects,
'comedown' or neurotoxicity are drinking a lot of cool water, limiting or reducing MDMA dosage
and use, taking breaks, and taking vitamins or other natural substances such as
5HTP.
The combination of the antidepressant drug Prozac and MDMA increases the risk of
acute toxic effects of MDMA, and may explain the increasing number of MDMA
-related deaths. MDMA increases the extracellular concentration of serotonin by
facilitating carrier-mediated serotonin release, which can be enhanced greatly
under conditions in which serotonin synthesis is stimulated.
According to this rodent study, using
5htp before MDMA use may protect
neurons from toxicity. Whether the protection is partial or complete is not
clear. It is also not clear what the appropriate 5-HTP dosage in humans would
be.
Attenuation of 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine induced neurotoxicity
with the serotonin precursors tryptophan and 5-hydroxytryptophan.
Life Sci. 1994. Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology, School of Pharmacy and Pharmacal
Sciences, Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN.
Treatment of rats with serotonin precursors tryptophan 400 mg /kg and
5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP, 50 mg/kg) was shown to attenuate MDMA (20 mg/kg)
induced serotonergic neurotoxicity as measured by [3H]-paroxetine binding in the
striatum, hippocampus, and frontal cortex of the rat brain. Hippocampal
serotonin and 5-HIAA levels were also indicative of the protective effects of
tryptophan and 5-HTP. These results suggest that depletion of serotonin stores
is important for MDMA-induced neurotoxicity. The possible significance of this
serotonin depletion in MDMA-induced serotonergic terminal degeneration is also
discussed.
Restoration of MDMA 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine-induced 5-HT depletion by the
administration of l-5-hydroxytryptophan 5-HTP.
Neuroscience. 2007.
Clinical Psychopharmacology Section, Intramural Research Program, National
Institute on Drug Abuse, National Institutes of Health, Baltimore, MD, USA.
Researchers
carried out two types of experiments in rats exposed to high-dose MDMA. First,
they examined the effects on serotonin binding and function. Next, they treated rats with the 5-HTP in an attempt to restore MDMA -induced depletions
of serotonin. Following
high-dose MDMA treatment sufficient to reduce serotonin binding by 90%, a significant
number of functionally intact serotonin nerve terminals survived. Administration
of 5-HTP-Benserazide restores brain serotonin depleted by MDMA, suggesting that
this approach might be clinically useful in MDMA users.
Children,
use by a child
Do you think that 5-HTP is safe for a seven year old girl to take to treat
low levels of serotonin?
The use of 5-HTP supplements in children should be kept to a low
dosage and only for a brief period of time under medical supervision. Most
supplements have not been studied well in children.
How much 5HTP can be given to an eight year old child
for occasional insomnia?
A dose of 20 to 30 mg can be give to a child this age a
couple of hours before bed once or twice a week. How much to give on other
nights depends on the initial night's response.
5-HTP review
Medical science is slowly discovering 5HTP
benefits and it is quite likely that its popularity will increase
over time for the treatment of depression, anxiety, insomnia, and other
conditions. We will update this review page as more research is
published. We are not aware of an independent site that reviews 5HTP
supplements. Most websites that discuss this nutrient are either
promoting a product or a medical site where the reviewers evaluate the
medical research but have little clue on the clinical uses.
Additional links, substances found
in plants that may have medicinal value
Abelmoschus moschatus contains myricetin, a flavonoid
Acacia concinna is an
Ayurvedic herb also known as Shikakai used for hair shampoo
Acacia nilotica is a
species of Acacia (wattle) native to Africa and the Indian subcontinent.
Acorus calamus is a
well-known medicinal plant used for neurological conditions
Agnuside is found in vitex
agnus, also known as chaste berry
Anthocyanidin found in
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Arabinose sugar molecule
information
Bacoside from bacopa
monnieri plant used for mental enhancement
Boswellic acid from
boswellia plant.
Emodin is a naturally
occurring anthraquinone present in the roots and bark of numerous plants of the
genus Rhamnus.
Furfural from bran,
oats, corncobs
Gingerol from ginger plant
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Guggulsterones found
in guggul herb.
Gymnemic acid in
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